Hello, welcome to the Career Success podcast. I’m Jason Connolly. If you’re a new listener, thanks very much for joining us. But if you are a regular listener it’s great to have you back in this series.

We speak to leaders in the world of business and people have had tremendous career success. We speak to people across a wide range of industries all across the globe. We lead the way in conversation to understand what makes someone successful. Listen to their stories of rising to the top, the challenges they’ve overcome, adversity, space and what success means to them. We will also discuss the lessons learned along the way myself and my guest will give practical advice on how to grow your business and climbing the career ladder in the coming episodes. We will also speak to authors of many of the best selling business titles and a handful of really well known Ted X speakers. If you’re someone that has a passion for business, then this is the podcast for you. In this episode, I’m delighted to be joined by Ben Ivy from London. Ben is a CEO and founder of the Entrepreneur lifestyle. He supports successful Entrepreneurs to help them create their ideal lifestyle in the quickest and most sustainable way possible as an entrepreneur, lifestyle expert, international speaker and mentor, Ben has inspired thousands of entrepreneurs across the globe. In his program, Ben helps entrepreneurs overcome overwhelming stress and help them clarify their entrepreneur lifestyle and boost their business success. Then, as a highly requested speaker flying internationally, he’s completed a Ted X talk in Mandarin Chinese and a shared the stage with Tony Robbins. Andy Harrington and Alan claimed chains and many other thought leaders. Ben, thanks very much for joining me on the show. Thank you so much Jason. It’s a pleasure to be here so you’ve got a really interesting story. So people that haven’t come across you before you were in this position on a destructive path of self sabotage, burnout and damaging relationships. And after this downward spiral, Ben became obsessed with the question is it possible to build a successful business while living the great lifestyle simultaneously? Tell us a bit about what you did when you was on this kind of journey and a bit about your background before we kind of come on to you. Know the lessons that you’re sharing with people today in the mentoring that you’re doing. Sure, so I ran a couple of businesses before I ran an import and export business, and then I was running an app based in Silicon Valley. And as you mentioned, I was on this path where I genuinely was working seven days a week and I see people take a weekend off. And Jason, I was thinking these people. They are lazy on trip a nurse. I mean who do they think they are taken a day off right there entrepreneurs? What are they doing? And I genuinely had that mindset of go go go. We’ve got to be able to really build the business, make lots of money and then ultimately inspire people. Then I really went down this path of self sabotage. Mean I have my team. I was starting to grow it but I I was just started burning out. I’m really not feeling very fulfilled in the process and then on top of that. Really knocked me like knocks me off. Course was losing my father to suicide and he was my best friend. I showed him a day before and it was just a crazy experience to go from such a high running my business to now suddenly losing someone that matters so much to me and having no idea why this occurred and what happened. So I quit my business and I just really started a search as to what is it that really matters to people in life. Why do we do what we do and why is it that we create these? Parallel worlds, one which people see and the other which is the reality that will be experienced. And if we think about nowadays with Covid and social media, it’s so apparent this sort of fake persona people put out versus the reality that’s going on. And for me I really see that there’s a lot of people living in these parallel worlds, which is a real challenge for entrepreneurs. How kind of matching the grief and going through that experience with your father? But when you kind of talk about parallel worlds, what do you mean by that? To sort of put it quite plainly, sure, what I mean by that is that when you ask an entrepreneur how’s it going? Nine and a half times outta 10, you’ll get great. And then you ask how’s it really going? How to actually going? Because the truth is, entrepreneurs are very optimistic. So on the surface they have to be positive and everything’s fine. When the truth there’s often a lot of challenges going on and. What I see is that a lot of people at the top isolate themselves, so actually they’re incredibly stressed out. They are depressed there, overwhelmed, but people won’t see. That’s what I mean by the parallel world right there? What the reality of the business versus what people perceive was the experience that you went through with your father. Was that kind of quite the eye opening into the parallel worlds, or was that something that kind of came for you that learning about you know the experiences of stress that people are finding was that kind of separate to that? And it wasn’t just that triggered that kind of. You know realisation for you to be honest. I think it was a combination of things, but certainly seeing my dad is such a giver. Such a fun individual. When I think of him often, I think of Robin Williams or something very similar. When somebody gives light there so fun and they give to everyone else, but fundamentally they don’t give to themselves and it was an incredibly big shock for me when that happened to be able to go through it. And that’s really where I started to attempt to figure out what makes humans click and. Really understand the fundamentals of how to live a really fulfilled life as we build our businesses. And as we build successful careers, I think a lot of entrepreneurs and I think when you’re at the top of the business, you’ve got to kind of resonate positivity, motivation. Get your workforce going, but you know, I, I totally agree with you. I think being at the top is is often a very lonely place and a lot of people might not want to show weakness in saying this and I’m struggling. I need help and so on well. That’s something that you’ve kind of found going through this journey. Is it even hard to get people to open up and sort of say that they’ve got these problems? ’cause I guess sometimes where do you go? Sure, and I think it depends on the people that you’re with. By no means am I saying that all leaders need to just breakdown in meetings and say, yeah, there incredibly depressing as struggling, but it’s important to be able to have the right people beside you to help support you through challenging times and whether that’s close friends. Whether it’s other entrepreneurs or business coaches or mentors, people that can support you is incredibly important, and. Through the work that I’ve done all over the world, what I often see is that the story changes, but the patterns the same, right? I’m overwhelmed, I’m overworked. I’m constantly focusing on the business and what I see is actually very common. Is this when I have this then I will addiction, which is the when I have the success then I’ll focus on my family. Then I’ll focus on my health. Then I will give back to the world. And it’s this prerequisite that I see which often trips entrepreneurs up when they’re on their journey. Yeah, I agree with you, it’s always. And I think I’ve been through this myself. You get to that next milestone. You get to that next level of turnover, headcount or whatever it is, and everything is going to be fine. Then I’m going to be happy you know what’s hit that makes Bench marker and actually spoke about this in a couple of episodes before with an offer about your life. You’ve got to kind of manage it in kind of segments, but so kind of rewind before we kind of come to the learnings that you’ve got to come across and the entrepreneur Lifestyle Coach Academy that you run. Tell us a bit about how you kind of got into business. What age was you and how did before we kind of got to the point that you was having this downward spiral and kind of self sabotage, burnout that tell us about how you got into business and what was your journey into being in a position of leadership. Sure, well, I first started when I was at school and I was selling at if you remember, chocolate freddos Jason during middle Oh yes 10 P in my day they were they were 10:00 PM my day as well and then not like I trust I think 20 or P announces joke inflation is crazy. So in my day right when I do. A smaller too, but then there we go, we won’t. We won’t go down the chocolate path right now, so I I remember selling member at school and I would buy a box of about 44 quid and I’d start to sell them on for about 20 P and unfortunately my business got shut down after a couple of weeks when 20 pence pieces were just falling out of my locker. Their friend and centre and I still got the entrepreneurial bug from there. And as I started I then looked into a young enterprise when I was at school. I did lots of entrepreneurship. University, and that’s where I set up my first business, which was an import and export business, whereas importing bags from Pakistan and sending them around the UK to different universities and having that sports bag business. That was my first real taste of entrepreneurship. And then I ended up going on something called the startup bus. I’m not sure if you ever heard of this, but no. When I did I thought it sounded utterly ridiculous. It was a hour journey whereby you would set. Business whilst you were on a bus going through Europe, so I think we got into Manchester and then we started going through all these different places and then up Berlin and then finished off in Vienna or something and it was a really cool experience where I pitched an idea which was a virtual reality platform to help people learn and memorise and I ended up coming third in Europe with my team and that’s where we started to expand. I started to fly in and out of China and I started to build that network as we started to build the platform and then we ended up going to Silicon Valley and that’s instead of going uphill. That’s kind of went downhill for me. Why? I think ultimately, when you’re in an environment where everyone is so focused on investment and money and building the next Unicorn and then the next big thing, I think that for me I was just this almost obsession of I really want to make this successful and for me I definitely had this when I have this, then addiction of for me I wanted to inspire people. I thought that’s really important to myself, but I felt that I had to achieve so much success beforehand before I could start to really have an impact on people’s lives. And that was really driving me, and that’s kind of when it was at that stage when he was involved with Silicon Valley. That’s when this kind of downward spiral started. Yeah, and I certainly notice that when I wasn’t taking much time off an it was. It was just this constant focus on. Work in this never ending focus on anything else like my health relationships went downhill and it was an incredible challenging time for me to be able to really look back on when I when I think of what I know now is doing everything wrong. Roy and how old was you at that point then? So I was probably around twenty 2122 Wow, so you kind of have these realisations you know very early on in your life, you could’ve done a lot by the age of 21. Yeah, OK, and to bring it back to current day. How old are you now? 27 right? OK, so you kind of got to that point. You know you had this moment and then how did this kind of all go from where you was out there in the states too? Becoming the sounds of entrepreneur lifestyle. Sure. Well, ready for awhile and so when everything happened I mean brace with my dad. I was feeling really unsure about what best to do so I ended up going out to China and I left with a guy who was a master NLP practitioner. So NRP is neurolinguistic programming and it’s the patterns of the mind, how we think.

And I started learning LP from him and I started to gain some different skills to be able to help people. So I started teaching neurolinguistic programming and in China. Teaching productivity I was teaching some public speaking and I started to really help anyone that I could with different areas of their life and I really had this first to understand what happened to my dad. Like why are people suicidal and also is it possible to build a business live a great lifestyle at the same time? Is that even a manageable feed? So I attended lots of events by Tony Robbins, Andy Harrington, Power to achieve all these different self development breakthrough events really too. Understand at a fundamental level, what helps humans to change. And then I started to learn from Tony Tony Robbins and I found that I really connected with how he helped people, so I started to gain these skills on this journey and then I remember being in China having very little money in my bank account thinking I have no idea what I’m doing. I’m running free events. I’ve got half the audience. They don’t even speak English like I don’t know what is going on and I’m thinking. Can I even make this work and at this point I was branded as the film and artist? I was helping people become incredibly fulfilled in their lives and I was running these Tuesday events and I had three people attend this two day event. Not many I had to grab along a few friends and it was really 8080 pound ahead and I’m thinking I’ve gotta run these seven days a week to make any money here. This isn’t working and then I had a lady come up to me and she said. Then we’re looking for a relationship coach. And I said that’s fantastic. I know a great one, so I recommended this lady and I said no, no, we want to work back and I said, OK, you serious. Of course I can definitely help, right? I’m thinking Oh my God, what am I going to do? And this is where I started on that journey of how can I really over deliver value. So the first client there I took on for about four grand for six months and I made a huge impact on them. I was doing a lot of stuff offline and then a little bit online ’cause I started to travel at that point. And it was a real testing time of helping them with their relationship. I had also entered my long distance relationship at that point with my girlfriend at the time. Now wife. So I was living this jet setting lifestyle of starting to take on clients offline, so I’d speak offline that get attracted to me. And then I do some online coaching and I’d fly to see my girlfriend in Los Angeles. I’d fly back home to the UK just to be with friends and family. And then I would be going to China for business. And I did this nonstop until this year. Wow, wow and how would you find with these people? Kind of finding you? Or was it the fact that you was kind of you started flying everywhere internationally you were picking people up? Kind of as and when you travel around the world? Yeah well I genuinely had absolutely no idea what I was doing. I was just booking as many talks as I could and just sharing in the most authentic record. I would cry on stage. I would share my story and I would just attract different people who would be really mesmerised by the different talks that I gave. And it was. I really fun experience. I started working with people from all walks of life that there be a divorced lady. There would be someone who’s just starting their business. I would have a corporate lady who’s incredibly unfulfilled and get a partner in a law firm like all these different types of people started to reach out and connect with me. So I started to literally help people from all walks of life and then three years ago I had a guy called Mark come up to me who is the same name as my dad and he said Ben, could you teach me what you do? And Jason at this point, I wholeheartedly said, absolutely not.

And everyone laughing about it. And the reason that I said, yeah, do you have any idea how long it would take me to attempt to teach you all this different knowledge and skills and experiences that I’ve had to really make you outstanding? ’cause for me I really wanted to make this person outstanding at coaching and to be an awesome speaker on stage. Not just an OK One South. I think there’s about three or four months later I dropped him a message and I said, I’m ready now let’s do it. It’s going to take a year. I’m not comfortable doing it any shorter ’cause I really wanted to make them very good and that started this. Journey and then training other people to do what I do as well.

Tell me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like a lot of the kind of motivation behind what you do is. It sounds like this kind of elements of mental health and people may be struggling with that and you kind of helping them in that regard. But it also sounds like this. There’s this kind of deep rooted. Kind of, you know, built in desire that you’ve got in order to kind of help people. What was where’s? This all kind of come from this. This kind of real desire to get out there and help people. To be honest, I think that I’d always had this desire to inspire people. And it wasn’t until I lost my dad that I really thought there was an opportunity for me to genuinely help you put it at a really big level. Then it’s true. It did start with a lot of mental health ’cause I wanted to understand why people get depressed, why people are suicidal. And I did different trainings, different courses and I’ve worked with multiple suicidal clients and I’ll tell you this story. I’m in China. I’m at this event and it’s by one of my one of my very close friends. Could Ralph Adams called the suited mark. Very cool dude and I’m sitting there in the audience and I’m chatting to this lady called Anna next to me and she starts chatting throughout which it does and she says yes. Then I’m I’m suicidal and I was like what and she says I don’t see myself living past 35 and I said right? How old are you now she goes. I’m 34 1/2. Now I can’t tell you the experience of working with someone where I’ve got them on the phone. I’m doing techniques and they’re saying I want to kill myself. I’m really unsure and this is an entrepreneur who’s very successful flying to New York doing fashion shows who just goes through these oscillations of depression and then happy and then depressed again. And I feel so blessed and lucky that I can support someone like that as they go through their life in a way which is so much more happy for filling. And successful at the same time. Yeah, I’m a big advocate of mental health. I’ve been there. Got the T shirt myself. I’ve had my own struggles and it’s it’s not easy running and growing a business and it does come. But you gotta watch mental health. I really agree with that to kind of bring it to sort of a bit more present day of what you’re doing. You know you’ve kind of gone through this journey. You’ve created the entrepreneur lifestyle. You’re now mentioned that you just recently stopped traveling. Tell us a bit about. What you’re doing? Current day, ’cause it just sounds absolutely fascinating, sure, so nowadays I’m working with entrepreneurs who want to become more efficient in their business and boost their business revenue. And ultimately that’s deliver great lifestyle whilst they build their business. So I ended up digitalising. Most of the events and content that I was running in different seminars over the years and made my entrepreneur Lifestyle accelerator program so that I wouldn’t have to teach the same thing over and over again. So it’s actually been a nice year just to digitalise a lot of. The work that I do and then I also do you find that you still manage to get from. Sorry to interrupt you back from taking that online. Are people still able to get the same Ben Ivy experience and the same level of learning from it with it being online? Sure so for me, I think that there is nothing better than being offline and having a fully immersive experience. Yeah, that said, I think that if you can deliver the correct information in a way that people can consume online and give the right tools they need. And then I have different coaching, so whether it’s me or one of my trainers going through that program with them, I find that’s incredibly effective for me. I’ve been doing online coaching for most of the time I’ve been coaching now, and I have to say it is so much easier for me to do something offline to do something online then offline from a coaching standpoint with people on a regular basis. Now. With that said, I will always go back to offline events when everything opens up, but I think that what I’ve created now is. Is a fantastic way for people to have an immersion where they can really come out the other side with some tremendous results. What’s the main things that you’ve learned in in business then? Because it sounds fulfilment, but one of the things that you’re really trying to help clients and people that you’ve worked with, Phil, you know, not just offline but online, but what the main things that you’ve learned about business. Now you know being in this place where you’ve met many, many, many successful people. You’ve obviously mentioned the lights of Tony Robbins, Andy Harrington, or so on. What lessons have you kind of learn? From from business. So a few lessons that that I want to share. The first one is be careful who you listen to and the reason why I say that is I’ve listened to some multimillionaires at different points in my life and it was the great advice but at the wrong time and I really want to bring that home ’cause I think there’s so many different pieces of advice out there which are all great. But if you’re not at the right time in your business or in your life to execute on that, it can actually really really trip you up so. That was something that I think is really important. People take home. Just be careful who you listen to. Can you expand on that a little bit? Because I think people might be listening to this and think, well, I’ve had advice. How do I know if the advice I’ve got is advice that I should act on at this point in my career? Sure, let me give you an example. So when I was first starting on my coaching journey, I had a one moment, Andy Multi millionaire for a day and he was saying that then you need to write a book. You need to build a course you need to do everything online and you need to start to bring up. Your base you need to build a massive audience and it’s great advice, but for me my focus was I need to change some people’s lives. I need to get some cash coming in. I can’t spend loads of time attempting to do Facebook ads, building groups, doing these things, writing books. So for me it was the wrong advice for me at that point in time. Why what? I teach now and what I think is a better approach is to build depth, not width. What I mean by that is build deep relationships with people who you can generally have an impact on. As opposed to connecting with thousands of different people and you see it now, right? I’m sure on LinkedIn you get about 30 requests a day from random people asking you for different things. There’s very few that actually want to build a deep relationship with you. They’ve actually read your profile. They ask you an interesting question. They’re actually genuinely interested in you as a human being as opposed to a number. And if it’s rare, rare, yeah, and I think there’s so many people lacking that human connection, they just sort of spreading this really wide net. That it wastes a lot of time, and it’s a lot of noise, and they don’t really get a result. Is the scatter gun approach. I always think that I you know you’re right what you’re saying. I get approached by many many many, many people, but it’s the kind of scatter gun mass Mail template and it’s when someone actually has a real interest in you. It’s a really beautiful thing and I think in business I’ve met some absolutely fantastic people over the years, but they don’t come along often. You know it’s, but when I do come across someone, it’s absolutely great and I think that. As I’ve evolved and gone along on my business journey, my perspectives have changed in life. You know, even who I relate to his changed. But I think it’s because I think a lot of the lessons that you’ve learned I’ve learned, but I’ve learned the very kind of hard way I’ve had to go through a lot of these kind of adversity’s throughout my career to kind of make these connections and try and find out where I fit in the world. So I think you’re totally right. And what you’re saying there, but have you learned any other lessons that you think are kind of good to share on the. On the Career Success podcast, then yeah. Most certainly, I think that you have to invest in yourself because your business growth will never outgrow your personal growth. And I generally mean that because I see so many people who are stuck in perfectionism analysis paralysis. I think nowadays we’re in this information overload, but we’re starving of wisdom. So what is incredibly challenging in business nowadays is figuring out who can you listen to. Who can give you the right advice to actually help you move forward. So for me, I think the best piece of advice I have had. Is really investing in myself so I can be a Better Business owner and it’s one of the ways in which I’ve moved myself forward that you are the best investment for your business and one of the other things is that people don’t pay you what you’re worth. They pay what you think you’re worth, and I think for those who are consultants or coaches or working for themselves, self-employed, deciding their own prices, it’s a really important lesson to take away because I’ve definitely undersold myself for many, many. Parts of my life when I really didn’t know the value that I was truly giving to the people I was serving and I think you hit the nail on the head. Though it’s about value and I’m a big believer of that. I think if you price yourself cheap you know people are going to draw conclusions from that and you should sell yourself based on value. I totally agree. You mentioned that you invest in yourself. What do you do to invest in yourself? Sure, so I’ll give you an example. So when this happened with going with the first thing I did was got myself a business going through I knew was doing incredibly well online because I was I had an offline to online business. And that I do speaking, I would do all these different events and I convert them online. I have not really done online to online before, so I wanted to get a business coach and that was one of the reasons why I re branded so that I could more efficiently share what I do online where people would actually resonate with what I was doing. So that’s one of the first things and then I invest in hiring a marketing team of invest in someone to teach me finances and investing. And I think that for me it’s figuring out what. Area, do you want to improve and in getting help with that and I’ll show you a funny story that I think it’s own with this. So when I was first visiting my girlfriend in San Diego and I’m not sure if you’ve been to America, Jason but the many times many, many times so the plates that are twice as big right now as a British person it’s polite to finish everything on your plate. So I’m already at a disadvantage, right? This is a challenge but I’m British. I’ll be polite, I’ll finish everything. So I’m done in San Diego. I’m finishing this food. And then our family keeps giving me more food. And Jason, I’m genuinely thinking these people are challenging me like can I finish this food, right? But do I know about the Asian culture about sharing love through food so I genuinely gained 30 pounds in a month. It was unreal, Unreal, and the reason why I’m showing this story when that happened I was thinking I don’t even know what I’m doing like I’m working from home on a laptop. How am I going to lose this? Like my back hurts? My body hurts so I immediately hired. Like an online health coach to just figure out what to do with me so I could follow a plan and make it happen. And I think that despite it being funny that I gained it in a month, it took me six months to lose and I think that it just goes to show how important it is to have those routines and systems that you can learn from other experts ’cause it’s much easier to fix something before it gets broken then you attempt to build something after you’ve really gone downhill. We quite similar ages been when I hear you talk. You’ve just got this level of wisdom of. I believe in old souls and things like that, but you know the the way you kind of process things and the lessons that you’ve learned. It is fascinating to hear in terms of sort of success. What does success mean to you now is your kind of idea of success, and it’s how it kind of resonates as it changed over recent years. Or how do you define it? Sure, I just define success is money. Now I’m joking. I knew I knew that wasn’t true. For me, I think that obviously that was what I previously thought an answer. Sex success is defined person to person and for me it’s waking up every day and just having an awesome day. And whether that is me jumping up and down on my rebounder, preparing to do outreach, or talking to a client called or being able to transfer someone’s live or doing a podcast like this. Where I’m here, I’m having fun. I’m enjoying myself to me that is success. ’cause it’s so easy to just focus on this destination. And you mentioned previously, right? You wanted to hit these revenue goals and then what? But if I can enjoy this journey of entrepreneurship of life, all the ups and downs and still have a smile on my face to me, I think that is the joy of water is to be alive to be human and to be successful. I absolutely agree with you. I totally agree with what you said there in terms of one thing I did. I’ve picked up on is you seem to reach out to professionals in different aspects of your life. You’ve got this problem, but I want to go to the person who you know is going to help me sort that and and it seems like you’ve got this kind of ability to think that I’m going to reach out to someone with a really mastery level of knowledge and get them to kind of fast track you. It seems like start finding quick ways to propel success in just your business life, but it sounds like your personal life as well. It is that where’s that kind of come from is that tell me about that? Sure, well for me, I think it’s about leapfrogging. And what I mean by that is that there are so many people out there who are incredibly intelligent. Have spent years mastering. Croft and I can’t we just learn something small off them and move that forward. And the truth is, I have done this in my personal life. I’ve done this in business. I remember when I was younger seeing someone do St Dance and thinking Jason, that’s too cool. I need to teach myself that way so I never see your teacher like he was amazing and I thought yeah, can you teach me that when I have an issue with let’s say marketing, I’m saying can you help me with that if I’m doing it like attacked or if I’m learning Chinese. I want to learn off someone who’s incredibly good at what they’re doing. So that I can learn from really the best people. Because when you’re learning football right, you don’t come to me. You want to get a messy ’cause the level of knowledge and wisdom and depth that he can tell you, even if it’s just a small tweak, can actually help you in such a big way as you move forward in your life. So for me it just cuts the journey shorten as opposed to me absorbing a lot of free information. Cause the truth is that there is loads of free information out there. I would much prefer to pay to get specific knowledge from someone who really knows what they’re doing. So that I don’t have to waste time attempting to find it myself. Yeah, I think this kind of reaching out to people and asking for help. Whether it’s helpful mentoring or whatever is something you touched on at the start of this episode is people kind of almost when you’re in entrepreneur mode and you’re putting on that positive front to everybody. And sometimes you can be hurting on the inside. You know, not feeling great, and so on, because you’re not reaching out and asking for help, but it sounds like that, so maybe you’ve kind of been doing from, you know, the very early days in business, and it sounds like it’s something by reaching out and. You know, going to these experts in their field, it’s really kind of helped and propelled you forwards, which you know, I think is an absolute great thing, and I think that I’m exactly the same when it comes to mentors or people who can help me get somewhere. I’m all about energy. I’m much more of a wanting to meet someone in person type of guy rather than always, you know, going online and just reading a kind of generic article. I always want to see the relevance. And how about kind of affects me. I could talk to you for ages. I’ve already ran overtime, but. Quite frankly, Ben, I don’t care ’cause we’re having a great time. Just tell us a bit about the Ted talk in Mandarin Chinese, and because that’s in itself, you know, highly impressive. You know, I know, a lot of Cantonese speaking people, and in China they learn English, but there’s not a lot of English people I know have learnt Chinese doing it the other way around. OK, so I actually was meant to do a Ted talk for years ago in Chinese and it actually got cancelled the day before by the Chinese government. And I was thinking this is all full. I’m never going to get another opportunity and I remember at the Chinese government. Yeah, so in China it’s a little different if they say no. Ted talks. You’re not doing a Ted talk, right? It gets cancelled. So I would say it has to be pre approved. Yeah so they can they can remove things whenever they like really. And I was fortunate in that because I made connections in Ted. I’ve been training people to do Ted talks for actually quite awhile now, so I know the organiser quite well and. I remember saying to her, yeah, I’m going to do this Ted talk in Chinese and she said Ben, I don’t think you should like your Chinese is OK, but you’ve never done a Chinese talk on stage right? There’s going to be hundreds of people. I’m not sure if your Chinese level is good enough and I said just let me give it ago and I do like challenging myself. Jason and I think this is another time in my life where I said, you know, I’m going to challenge myself and be it doing Wim Hof, Iceman, breathing in Italy or teaching myself to Wolf whistle. I like having these different challenges that I give myself so I had doing it. Can talk in itself is a challenge. Let’s allow doing it in Mandarin. And tell us how you have today to go, and is it available to people in English? I guess is the secondary question. Yes I there’s subtitles on it. I’ll share it with you after this account in the show notes, but I’m basically learning this entire speech off by heart, so my Chinese isn’t good enough to just give it ago. So I’m thinking if I screw up one thing like everything’s gone so by the first thing is I learn this entire speech and then I cut it down, they change it, and a few weeks before I realised, Oh my God. It doesn’t really matter what I say. I have to use emotion and body language. I remember attempting to do this Ted Talk and I would say 5 things and then about 3 three seconds later I would move my hand for five. It was all it was, just all he could. He figured it was completely out of order and I remember finally getting to the day standing up on stage and going with the flow that the Chinese audiences laughing at bits. I didn’t think they would laugh out so I’m kind of being bought off of a jolt here and then it gets in the middle of my speech and then Jason I go. Black right, nothing deadly score and I’m on stage and I’m staring at home. No Anne, I’m thinking what on earth do I do? So I look at a member of the audience and if you watch the city on the edge of my seat now, just that the story. So I’m looking at this audience and in my head this is going like 100 miles an hour but in slow motion. It’s Oh my God, what am I going to do? What I’m going to do? I completely forgot condition so I just look at a member of the audience and I say woman them about. Which is like. So what do we do? And this poor Chinese guy just looks at me and he just shrugs his shoulders, right? And it’s enough time for me to be able to remember what my next sentence is. And then I carry on with the speech and sort of go with the flow. But I managed to hide it. I’ve gotta say, I thought I hit it pretty well so you can check that out for that moment there, but that was definitely definitely a different experience for me. And just to kind of bring this round to some of the people who listen to this show. What advice would you give to someone who’s maybe? We get a lot of people who listen to this show who are starting out in business. Maybe there’s someone that’s left University and I, I do think yes, it’s a difficult time in code at the moment and an it’s not easy, but I still think there’s a lot of opportunity around I. I think there is opportunity for people to to go out there and work for themselves and start a relevant business, but what advice would you give to someone who is maybe a gradual or some of it? Thinking about starting a business or even in their career in general? What would you say to those people? I’d like to share a story ’cause I think it hits him better and that is that I want you to imagine that everyone is on a boat and they’re all circling this island and everyone’s got a huge telescope and they’re looking for this perfect diamond, right? So they just go around and round and there’s hundreds of boats. Everyone’s over the telescope and they were thinking when will I see this diamond? ’cause when I see the diamond then I’ll go to the island, but it’s only when some crazy person decides to jump off the boats into the island, but they start to see the diamonds, the rubies. All these different other jams they would have never seen back on the boat. And for those listening, there’s too many people nowadays waiting for the perfect environment.

The perfect opportunity, the perfect job to then get the ball rolling. And what I think is incredibly important, especially nowadays is just to have the first step to figure out what is the step that at least moves you forward as opposed to waiting for everything to be perfect to then actually get going. And I think a lot of people when they’re thinking about working for themselves they think well, what can I do? What idea can I have? What is the next step for me? How would you go about identifying that step? Is there kind of a process you know that you would go through in order to workout? You know where I’m going to move to next. Yeah, there actually is, and it’s the same process that I do when I’m doing decision making, whether I’m taking on a new business coach or a new person, and I look at all the options that I have and then I go through my pros and cons, right? And I think what does this benefit give me really, when I look into my overall outcomes? ’cause maybe for someone’s career the most important thing? They want to achieve his travel and then they care about salary and then they care about all these other things. So it’s important to list your outcomes and figure out what is it that you desire. Create your options and then figure out what is the my best option right now and right do it. Give it a go for three months a year. However long you want to give yourself for that so that you can really make some massive progress and the reason why I say three months is ’cause I break my life down into power years when I mean by this is a period of three months where I can fully immerse myself and focus on one thing. And get something done because it’s so easy for us, especially nowadays to think in calendar years. And I’ve got to be honest. The map people that set a calendar year got they sat down in January. Jason everything I know I’m going to achieve in 2020. I’m going to achieve all these wonderful things, right? Yeah, suddenly February hits and an all goes. All goes terrible. So three months I think is a long enough period of time to really immerse yourself in something and figure out if you like it and it gives you that clear focus and perspective and then you can do something different if you do that for four ideas in a year. You will learn so much more than dabbling in different things and never really committed that. I think what you know the the learning from that is focus. It’s you know, not diluting your focus. And I think that by having these three months segments, I think is exactly right. It allows you to really get your teeth stuck into one particular thing. I think I think a lot of people they go through this process don’t have. I’m going to start this. This needs to happen and they get lost in so many things at the focus just isn’t there. But we are out of time. We must. Do another podcast ’cause there’s already a whole page full of stuff I wanted to talk about about you working at corporates and large companies and all sorts of things you learn there. But we are out of time. But if people want to learn more about the entrepreneur lifestyle, you’re coaching on my business, where can they go? So you can connect with me like on most social media platforms. Just type in Ben Ivey and then you can go to my website. So it’s www.ben-ivey.com and you can just drop me a message and either myself or my team will get back to you. And I share any free resources or programs that we have to offer. Thank you very much. That’s been Ben Ivey. You heard it there. If you want to find out more, go to www.ben-ivey.com. I’m Jason Connolly. This is the Career Success podcast until next time goodbye.

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